[MEGA] General Grievous’ Leadership and Damage Clarifications

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  • SmilinStonee
    195 posts Member
    edited February 2019
    Pretty sure what hoberfinkle is trying to say that advertisement failed to mention the 20% part. That "based" was too vague of a description, not detailed enough in the kit.

    **spelling Edit.
  • Lol just like the Separatists were pawns in Palpatine’s scheme, they’re pawns again in CG’s scheme for your $$$. 😂
  • Not based on his Max health.... the text is misleading. It's based on part of his max health.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Phoenixis wrote: »
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    General Grievous is only doing damage based on 20% of his max health not full max health. No wonder his damage is so crap. They don’t even clarify this in his kit. All we’re told is “General Grievous does damage based on his max health” what is should say is “General Grievous does damage based on 20% of his max health”. Complete trash CG. Especially with the pricing on the new packs. You’ve lost a customer, that’s for **** sure.

    from what people are saying the new packs (the droideka ones) are actually cheaper to get the character.

    i'm not sure how what they said is any different than what you wanted them to say, it is based on his max health, how much is a matter of game balance, but is no way false or misleading (on this point)

    because CG said they would give you a whole chocolate bar, and then only have you 20% of one. pretty easy to see how it's misleading

    at no point did they say they would give you " a whole" or "100%" or anything to imply it was in any way based on his whole health.

    to follow the line you gave, it would be like them saying they will give you a chocolate desert and giving you 20% of a hershey bar.

    what?

    if you base something off of its "max" health that means it's MAX health. So if GG has 60k health then his ability is based on 60k, not 12k (20% of that).

    of course he hits like a wet noodle

    "Max health" is a point, a value that it is based on. that does not suggest or imply that it is based on 100% of the that value.
  • Dk_rek
    3299 posts Member
    edited February 2019
    Everyone here has a right to be angry. Take a facction everyone wanted to be good, put out a misleading video, have everyone trying to gear one of the most difficult factions to gear up, then find out they are nearly useless. I only put 1 zeta on so far but when they struggle at g11 in crappy GW matchups I feel like I've had it broke off in me.

    CG, you wont get more money from me. I was ready to pay to finish gearing this team because they looked fun and interesting but the kids no point for a team that is a C-D grade squad at best.

    Who cares about g11.... gg health goes up like 25k at g12 for the low low price of 160 purple medpacks

    Asumming perfecto drop rate thats only 80 HSTR raids

    For that sweet sweet 20% 5k damage..... lolz 160
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    edited February 2019
    To be fair, they wouldn't need to make a whole forum post clarifying how GG's damage works and everything if they had just said "20% of his max health" from the beginning or even put it in the description of his kit. I know they said "based" and that confused me for a while, but after seeing the test footage I assumed that they must have really meant max health = damage dealt. Some up-front clarification about what "based on" means or, again, a stipulation in his kit to clarify, would have gone a long way to avoid people feeling misled when his damage output was more lackluster in practice.

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    The term" based on" means they use that as a base for the calculation.

    take the example of rent. the price is based on 2 people sharing the room. meaning you take the base price and divide it by 2, getting what you should pay.

    if this was as other have expressed, the price being based on 2 people sharing the same space would be to pay double rent for 2 people sharing the same space.
    his damage is based on his max health, you take his max health and multiply by 20% to get the damage. this % could have been anything and is likely picked to keep a balance to his damage as his health stacks, but also giving decent damage if you max him out for health in every way.
  • "It's a TRAP!"

  • AKAren wrote: »
    Omg. We get it. It’s based on max health.
    The point is they should have defined it. It was poor form to not give us that detail.

    I was skeptical because of the wording, but I incorrectly assumed it wouldn’t be 20%. It’s just terrible.

    That’s the new argument going forward.

    Carry on.

    Chewie has the same statement, and his isn’t 100% heath. I’m not sure why you would assume that. There are very few abilities that are 100% offense. Everything has a modifier.
  • The most disappointing thing to me is, pre grievous rework night, but after b1/b2, grievous b1 b2 asajj bb8 did great. After the rework, they fell apart so fast due to the unique damage on b1.

    So, if you wouldn't have reworked him, the squad would be better. The squad won before thanks to staying power and asajj being a great character. Now it loses. Aren't reworks supposed to help characters?

    Mind blowingly bad. I hope you find something else not working as intended a la bastila release, or be ready for more disappointed people like me.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    To be fair, they wouldn't need to make a whole forum post clarifying how GG's damage works and everything if they had just said "20% of his max health" from the beginning or even put it in the description of his kit. I know they said "based" and that confused me for a while, but after seeing the test footage I assumed that they must have really meant max health = damage dealt. Some up-front clarification about what "based on" means or, again, a stipulation in his kit to clarify, would have gone a long way to avoid people feeling misled when his damage output was more lackluster in practice.

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    The term" based on" means they use that as a base for the calculation.

    take the example of rent. the price is based on 2 people sharing the room. meaning you take the base price and divide it by 2, getting what you should pay.

    if this was as other have expressed, the price being based on 2 people sharing the same space would be to pay double rent for 2 people sharing the same space.
    his damage is based on his max health, you take his max health and multiply by 20% to get the damage. this % could have been anything and is likely picked to keep a balance to his damage as his health stacks, but also giving decent damage if you max him out for health in every way.

    OK, I understand that based uses his Max Health as the base for the calculations, but his kit doesn't not read 20%, so assumedly you would think without any indicators otherwise that the kit would literally mean "based on 60K health" not "damage equal to 20% of 60K"

    We got videos from CG of GG hitting for 50K-60K against Revan teams, but now we're seeing under 40k for GG's with 70K health after mods.

    The text should be "dealing damage equal to 20% of his max health" not this vague misleading "based on" with no evidence of anything less than 100% of his max health.
  • AKAren wrote: »
    @Bulldog1205
    For clarification, I assumed it wouldn’t BE AS LOW AS 20%. I also assumed it wouldn’t be 100%.

    I was hoping it would be a competitive percentage.

    Or like the video.
  • Cya around
  • Wait they are even better then we thought!!
  • AKAren
    40 posts Member
    edited February 2019
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    Another vague description I was hoping would get clarification.
  • AKAren
    40 posts Member
    edited February 2019
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    A variant of his would help Grievous, instead of the marked that is too easy to get around.
  • Gorem
    1190 posts Member
    SiFuLee wrote: »
    Wait they are even better then we thought!!

    Gotta love how they can even be beaten by multiple different teams of... three.
  • RAYRAY
    2761 posts Member
    SiFuLee wrote: »
    Wait they are even better then we thought!!

    If they are going to be as soft as they are, they need to do a LOT more damage all around. Especially B2 and Magnaguard. Every skill on those two characters needs do do at least 100% more damage except maybe B2’s dispel. And B1 needs to have his stacks adjusted to ignore percentage based attacks. Tweak the numbers...
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  • I think the real dmg will be seen with HK-47 rework. And grouping those droids could end in some killing disaster.
  • SiFuLee wrote: »
    Wait they are even better then we thought!!

    Well, to be fair a HUGE percentage of teams in the game would lose to those 3 teams of 3.

    Revan GMY Ezra
    CLS Han Chewie
    Traya Nihilus Sion

    I'm not saying the GG team is good, but those teams arent proper metrics for saying his team is trash. Those are simply some of the most powerful 3 man synergy combos in the game.

    Qira Nest can duo Bastilla teams. Nest alone can solo many teams and timeout CLS. Doesn't mean those teams are trash.

    Again I dont know if team is good or bad but I'm not sure if this is the proper metric.
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