Precraft gear gap has only worsened as time goes on

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Asavanor
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It is getting very tiresome seeing tier 11 QGJ in arena and GW while mine will remain tier 8 for at least another month. The droid caller debacle has to be fixed. I recommend removing raid gear requirements from all tier 9-11 gear. Then make tier 12 the new raid gear tier.

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    Working as intended.
  • slickdealer
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.
  • LeoRavus
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    edited June 2016
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    It is a major problem in the arena. On my shard you can't even break the top 15 without being on gear X and XI. The top is filled with precrafters and whales who are only moving further ahead while the rest of us wait it out.

    @EA_Jesse @CG_JohnSalera is this going to be addressed today? The complaints are only getting louder. Something really has to be done for the good of the game.
  • LeoRavus
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    Yet people who precrafted multiple of these have had 'end game' content for quite a while now. Also those who find furnaces in shipments. That reasoning isn't going to fly in this situation.
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    (Bad)RNG is RNG. We have people in our guild who have yet to receive any droid callers or droid caller salvage. Sitting at 200 furnace salvage. And yes we do heroic.
  • Asavanor
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    LeoRavus wrote: »
    It is a major problem in the arena. On my shard you can't even break the top 15 without being on gear X and XI. The top is filled with precrafters and whales who are only moving further ahead while the rest of us wait it out.

    @EA_Jesse @CG_JohnSalera is this going to be addressed today? The complaints are only getting louder. Something really has to be done for the good of the game.

    +1

    Raid gear should never have been added as a requirement to existing gear. Hugest bungle in gaming history. Imagine if Blizzard suddenly changed the gear drops in heroic dungeons to never include any exotic gear and then made such exotic gear only obtainable in raids but also required to enter the raids. Only the lucky few who already had all the required gear would be able to raid and continue to progress. Everyone else would be left out in the cold forever. This is exactly what happened when tier 9 gear requirements were arbitrarily changed
  • Toukai
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    (Bad)RNG is RNG. We have people in our guild who have yet to receive any droid callers or droid caller salvage. Sitting at 200 furnace salvage. And yes we do heroic.

    Yup. I had to purchase my furnaces using guild currency. I dont spend on shards.

    Even after getting QGJ to g9, i am 10/50 more furnaces and we do t6 almost every other day.

    Gonna say this is an actual issue that is seriously terrible. If you dont have a supreme heroic guild, you CANNOT progress. Guilds shouldnt be a brickwall for people who want to play solo.
  • Asavanor
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    LeoRavus wrote: »
    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    Yet people who precrafted multiple of these have had 'end game' content for quite a while now. Also those who find furnaces in shipments. That reasoning isn't going to fly in this situation.

    Exactly!
  • slickdealer
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    (Bad)RNG is RNG. We have people in our guild who have yet to receive any droid callers or droid caller salvage. Sitting at 200 furnace salvage. And yes we do heroic.

    So make posts complaining about RNG instead of pre crafting.

  • hhooo
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.
    How does no one understand that doing heroic on a regular basis is the land of the precrafters and whales who've bought lots of furnaces?

    The gear gap is self compounding.
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.
    That's about the gist of it. I'm totally F2P, didn't pre-craft and have a gear 10 QGJ, gear 9 (almost 10, don't need more raid gear, though) Phasma, gear 9 Han and almost gear 9 (need stun cuffs, have the furnace) Rey.

  • Asavanor
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    edited June 2016
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    The droid callers were able to be crafted insanely easily prior to the change. To call them 'end game' content is not cool.
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  • LeoRavus
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    garublador wrote: »
    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.
    That's about the gist of it. I'm totally F2P, didn't pre-craft and have a gear 10 QGJ, gear 9 (almost 10, don't need more raid gear, though) Phasma, gear 9 Han and almost gear 9 (need stun cuffs, have the furnace) Rey.

    Unless you've been raiding like a fiend and getting lucky drops, you bought those furnaces in shipments. There are tons of people who haven't gotten any raid gear salvage/full drops for droid callers and those who precrafted have had toons at a higher gear level for a while without worrying about it, only moving on to higher gears.

    It's a problem. Everyone is aware of it, even the devs. We're only waiting for a solution.
  • Toukai
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    (Bad)RNG is RNG. We have people in our guild who have yet to receive any droid callers or droid caller salvage. Sitting at 200 furnace salvage. And yes we do heroic.

    So make posts complaining about RNG instead of pre crafting.

    @slickdealer
    Except, pre-crafters are top of their guild dps which nets them more gear which nets them better dps which nets them more gear which.....

    etc...

    Meanwhile, people who didnt pre-craft are stuck getting less gear, not being able to do heroics, and are frozen in power. So... yea.. you are wrong
  • Asavanor
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    Even if I had ten droid callers so far from raiding I would still cry foul on the precrafting debacle. It is unbelievably unfair to have gear that was once an easily farmable non raid piece suddenly be changed to a raid only piece.
  • Toukai
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    Asavanor wrote: »
    Even if I had ten droid callers so far from raiding I would still cry foul on the precrafting debacle. It is unbelievably unfair to have gear that was once an easily farmable non raid piece suddenly be changed to a raid only piece.

    @Asavanor
    Not only that, but its now based solely on a DAILY rng instead of multiple times a day (sim ticket farming).

    That literally means those 10-15 sims we use to get one piece? Its now 10-15 DAYS before you get a single piece.
  • Asavanor
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    Toukai wrote: »
    Asavanor wrote: »
    Even if I had ten droid callers so far from raiding I would still cry foul on the precrafting debacle. It is unbelievably unfair to have gear that was once an easily farmable non raid piece suddenly be changed to a raid only piece.

    @Asavanor
    Not only that, but its now based solely on a DAILY rng instead of multiple times a day (sim ticket farming).

    That literally means those 10-15 sims we use to get one piece? Its now 10-15 DAYS before you get a single piece.

    Excellent point.
  • LeoRavus
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    The sad thing is, no matter how hard some of us try, it's impossible currently to do well in the arena. There's literally nothing we can do but hope to get lucky raid drops. The top is really that far ahead.

    I don't even do arena refreshes since it's pointless and have to settle for somewhere in the top 100 until something is done.
  • Varlie
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    At this point I don't think it has much with precrafting and it has every thing to do with whales and raiding.

    My guild has a lot of lower level people in it so we've only done T5 raids. We're pushing them to do T6 in order to open up Heroics so the higher ups can start to progress once again. I'm on an older server shard and have several whales in the top 20 so I am seeing the issue more and more in the arena.
  • Asavanor
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    edited June 2016
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    Even leviathan whales guild hopping twice a day can't obtain droid callers as easily as those who farmed them pre patch. The farm was laughably easy with 20 blue vials being the most time consuming pieces obtain.
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    The simple matter is they messed up and now it can't be undone.

    But it can and should be lessened and just take more care in the future.

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/35850/adding-a-new-way-to-progress-using-your-different-tokens/p1
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    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.

    (Bad)RNG is RNG. We have people in our guild who have yet to receive any droid callers or droid caller salvage. Sitting at 200 furnace salvage. And yes we do heroic.

    So make posts complaining about RNG instead of pre crafting.

    But I didn't make a post complaining about pre-crafting? I mean I think it's terrible for the game and I can see why it frustrates some people. But I pre-crafted (a lot) so I'm ahead. B)
  • Asavanor
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    The simple matter is they messed up and now it can't be undone.

    But it can and should be lessened and just take more care in the future.

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/35850/adding-a-new-way-to-progress-using-your-different-tokens/p1

    This would at least help lessen the gap.
  • Asavanor
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    Let's not let this issue be forgotten.
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    Asavanor wrote: »
    The simple matter is they messed up and now it can't be undone.

    But it can and should be lessened and just take more care in the future.

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/35850/adding-a-new-way-to-progress-using-your-different-tokens/p1

    This would at least help lessen the gap.

    It would i didn't pre craft but i have bought many furnaces and used that to keep high rank in raids to get the gear i want.

    I don't want guildies falling behind and some way to help them keep up doesn't hurt.
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    LeoRavus wrote: »
    garublador wrote: »
    How many heroics have you done? Most of my guild has gotten 3-5 full drops plus crafted another 3-5.

    If you aren't doing heroics, don't expect end game gear without doing end game content.
    That's about the gist of it. I'm totally F2P, didn't pre-craft and have a gear 10 QGJ, gear 9 (almost 10, don't need more raid gear, though) Phasma, gear 9 Han and almost gear 9 (need stun cuffs, have the furnace) Rey.

    Unless you've been raiding like a fiend and getting lucky drops, you bought those furnaces in shipments. There are tons of people who haven't gotten any raid gear salvage/full drops for droid callers and those who precrafted have had toons at a higher gear level for a while without worrying about it, only moving on to higher gears.

    It's a problem. Everyone is aware of it, even the devs. We're only waiting for a solution.
    I had two lucky drops, a furnace and a scanner. I crafted two furnaces and one droid caller. I've only placed top 10 in a raid once (most of one of those furnaces), 15 once and the rest were anywhere from 20-40. We don't exclusively do heroic raids, either. I saved my guild currency to buy raid gear salvage, which is how I was able to craft so many items.

    I have seen the issue, though. I was able to fight for #1 in arena before pre-crafting and one refresh and now I sit comfortably in the top 50 with no refreshes. With 1 refresh I could get to top 20, but that's a bunch of extra time for pretty minimal gains. I really doubt I could get higher than that, I just don't have enough gear. I just want to show that it's not impossible to get raid gear. You have to find a guild that does raids and save up those guild tokens.

    The solution is that eventually we'll have raid gear, too. It's not ideal and a pretty bad way to handle that type of situation, but I don't think anything will be done about it.

  • Asavanor
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    My guild is only doing tier 5. We currently need more contributing members with better rosters to attempt the higher tiers. I personally have 13 7* tier 8 and 9 level 78 - 80 characters.
  • Tycho
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    edited June 2016
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    I know... everyone should get 50 free furnaces, 50 free droid callers. Perfect ending to a disgusting story. Thanks for making it so EA.
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  • Toukai
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    edited June 2016
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    Tycho wrote: »
    I know... everyone should get 50 free furnaces, 50 free droid callers. Perfect ending to a disgusting story. Thanks for making it so EA.

    @Tycho
    Joking or not, yea.. They really just need to put an end to it by actually showing they messed up by purposely destroying half their player base.

    Honestly, no one would freaking complain if they just FIXED G8 TIERS!

    Like, we arnt even asking for g9 gear. We just want the gear required to REACH g9. It wouldnt be such an issue then.
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